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RP GAMES The Resistance (beta 1.712)

Lacks of response due to spy sabotage trying to get me to look inactive which in turn makes me look like a spy.

I am completely 100% resistance. My loyalty is unbreakable. I finally fixed the malfunction that the spy caused. I think Gyoin might have been such spy seeing as he pointed out my inactivity
 
Baldoraxx said:
Lacks of response due to spy sabotage trying to get me to look inactive which in turn makes me look like a spy.

I am completely 100% resistance. My loyalty is unbreakable. I finally fixed the malfunction that the spy caused. I think Gyoin might have been such spy seeing as he pointed out my inactivity
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I only pointed out the effectiveness of your current strategy, Keleynal labeled you the spy initially, but I did agree with the thought process. You can point fingers at me all you want, I at least have my views and responses in the open so people can take that as they wish and have done very little to be accountable for spy. I've said it once, if you only have the truth to speak, it's not possible to be caught in a lie (as one doesn't exist).

Accusations and speculation occur with the lack of information, as that is distrustful. Being open with your views and thoughts will only cause you to be accountable for your actions, thus more credible to the situation. Pointing fingers on one statement and not the overall information gathering is quite close minded and rash.
 
Mission #2 fails!

Votes:
2 x Success
2 x Failure

Team: dainjre (leader), Diremongoose, PsionicFox, Otakebi

Current Score:
Spies: 1
Resistance: 1

Next team leader: Sasquatauch - pick four people for Mission #3!
 
50% chance that any of those four people are spies.
33% chance that any of the six left out are spies (more like 0% chance for myself and 40% chance of anyone of the other five, but logistically speaking, those are the current odds for you Sasquatauch )
 
well that narrows it down a little bit. this next mission should help us tell 95% at least one or two who are spys. I'm not a spy so this is good. May the odds be ever in your favor
 
Also, this is the pivotal point. We need to ensure a win here in mission 3 for the resistance, as that will give us the best odds to finish the game strong in mission 4 when the spies will need two (with mission 4 being the hardest mission to come by for spies).

We can already concur that NOT including the four in the previous mission for mission four, we have VERY good odds on a random pick to only need to exclude one spy.

Mission three is the standstill. The game really does rest on this mission and needs to be carried out VERY carefully. The information from this mission can only work in three ways (if you fully exclude the previous four).

1. Mission is successful on a 4-0 count. This would give us the best opportunity to seal the win in mission 4, as there may have been some luck involved and actually excluded spies completely, and the game could be won. Unless there was one spy who voted succeed and planned to wait until mission 4 to strike, which would be a poor move letting the resist go to mission 4 with a 2-1 lead. Or two spies, which is the WORST case scenario, as they will then hold control in mission 4 and then we're at a complete fuckfest at mission 5.

2. Mission is a fail on a 3-1 count. One spy exists in the 4 and then mission 4 could still be used for the same team if it were to follow another 3-1 vote and tied 2-2, and the final mission would be the stand still which, again, is a fuckfest. Or, ABSOLUTE WORST scenario, there were 2 spies and use the same team, and the game is lost. Or, switch out two people for the final two people, and then if we're at a 3-1 on mission 4, we can make further hypothesis on who is and isn't a spy and solidify round 5 in a safe manner.

3. Mission is a fail on a 2-2 count. The final two who have not been chosen for a mission yet are absolute safe for mission 4 and 5. This brings it down to the BEST scenario for the resistance, as the information at hand of TWO 100% DEFINITIVE resistance members is key. If there is any form of doubt at that point, you have a screw loose.

Your move spies. Sasquatauch I propose a full new team of 4 non-previously used members.
 
Gyoin a new team is my first inclination simply b'c of the odds. However, I need to go back thru the posts and send out some PM's before making any decisions. Won't be until after work that I'm really able to dig into this though.
 
These plans are based on a numbers game. Words will be toxic from accusations and slander, but the base numbers still hold true. Base your judgements as best as possible Sasquatauch .[DOUBLEPOST=1376496411,1376496372][/DOUBLEPOST]
Sasquatauch said:
Gyoin a new team is my first inclination simply b'c of the odds. However, I need to go back thru the posts and send out some PM's before making any decisions. Won't be until after work that I'm really able to dig into this though.
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Take your time. I wouldn't expect anything less. <3[DOUBLEPOST=1376496665][/DOUBLEPOST]Oh, and another scenario!

What if there was actually a third spy in the original mission, or highly unbelievable as it is, a fourth?!

That would only further help the case of an entirely new team.
 
I've got a few teams already in mind, but it's basically spending a bit of time to determine who actually gets picked. If you (or anyone for that matter I suppose) has a case for a team or player, shoot me a PM.
 
Based on what I know so far, I believe Diremongoose and dainjre are spies.

In PM, Dire let me know that he had told dainjre that he was a spy (lying, according to him) and hold told dainjre to vote success on the mission since he (DM) was going to vote to fail it.

I think Dire was playing both sides. He really is a spy and followed through on what he told dainjre. However, dainjre ignored him or didn't trust him and we wound up with 2 failure votes.

PsionicFox was also in the conversation, so I find it unlikely that he voted failure since Dire's strategy was apparent to all present. That's not to say he isn't a spy, just less likely he was one of the fail votes.

I spoke with Otakebi in PM prior to voting, as a check on Diremongoose. According to both of them, Dire presented himself as Resistance and threatened to accuse him of being a spy if/when the mission failed. We'll see if he follows through on that or not. I suspect he will now have to rethink since the strategy of ensuring just 1 fail vote has fallen through.

That said, picking 4 untested people for the next mission is a viable strategy since we can't be sure of PF or Otabeki. However, I will not support any missions that include DM or dainjre.

Other than myself, I trust that Gyoin is Resistance the most. DM has started picking on him, I think to hurt his credibility. Knowing his personality, I believe his status update was sincere, if overstated.
 
I also trust PF/Gyoin the most, interesting information on DM. However is sounds so sticky that I feel he could still be with us and just trying too hard to find spies. I will agree with Kel in that I won't pass a mission with Dainjre either; still sceptical about DM, especially since he definitely trying way too hard to accuse me when I've never even been on a mission.
 
You're wrong about me. Although the situation where Diremongoose PMed me and admitted he was a spy I can confirm. I personally believe that the Fox and and Mongoose tried too hard to outsmart each other and thus the situation ended up in the best possible situation for the resistance, because you all now know for a fact that two of the four people on my mission are spies, a card wich shouldn't be revealed this early into the game. Not saying I'm not suspicious of Otakebi either, as it seems he was left out of the plot and therefore could be the cause of Diremongoose's failure. Rest assured, I voted for the mission to be a success, as I told Psionicfox and Diremongoose I would.
 
As I mentioned before, it'd be funny if all four of them were spies. But we can only be for certain that two are.

I will still push for a new full set of 4 for mission three. This will give us the most data needed to progress. And, if lucky, the two missing out will actually be the spies and that will be game.
 
Alright, so as a few of us predicted and stated in the thread, this mission failed. Knowing that it was likely to fail, i voted against the selected team. What i didnt do, and should have done more clearly in my previous post was explain what else we should have done. Because i didn't want to roll loaded dice on the second mission, i thought that we should have skipped a step and preformed what we are doing now, back in mission 2. This would have given the resistance an extra round to try and decipher what is going on and try to determine who is a spy. But that does not matter at this point seeing how the team had passed and the mission failed. What i had said, is almost identical to what Gyoin had just thought up but just backed up a mission. On a side note, Gyoin i believe you didn't see that the 4th and 5th mission involves 5 people so your data is somewhat off (if i read that correctly).
 
OneWhoRuns said:
On a side note, Gyoin i believe you didn't see that the 4th and 5th mission involves 5 people so your data is somewhat off (if i read that correctly).
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Sheesh, this game really does favor the spies. lol

With that said, the process is still very similar. It just means the 5th member will have to be chosen even more carefully. The numbers aren't meant to be fair and calculated, so a hint of gambling is in order. There is only so much one can do with the finite information you are given, especially when you have so little data to work off of in round one (which we all sheepishly followed the instructions of DM, setting information behind a round).

You were not wrong in your thought process Run.
 
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